[identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] sga_santa
Since we're getting closer to the deadline for stories (December 10th) and stories are starting to trickle in now (yay! for people who are early ::g::), we figured it was time for a 'Formatting Your Fic, Yay!' post.

Given [livejournal.com profile] alyse's previous post about having difficulty typing at the moment, we're totally cribbing previous posts to firm up our submission guidelines.

This is nothing new but it is absolutely essential that you follow these formatting guides this year, as Alyse will not be physically capable of fixing stuff the way she has previously, and Claire will pout if she has to do it all herself.

Meta Information

For your headers, please include the following information:

Title:
Author: -- will not be posted until the reveal
Recipient: -- important
Pairing: -- please give all pairing info or, if it's gen, just say 'gen' here. If it's 'gen but if you squint it could be shippy' then put that here (with the pairing) as well and we'll list the story in the masterlist under both
Rating:
Disclaimer:
Author's Notes: -- not essential unless you want to include them. If you want to keep some information back, for example beta readers who may give away who you are before the reveal, please include that in the covering e-mail (not the story file) and we'll put it in the database so we know to post it on the reveal.
Summary:

Any other notes are optional although we're bound to have forgotten something important ::g::

And have it in an easy cut and paste text box:



Formatting

This year we need you to format your submission in such a way that we only need to copy and paste it into LJ. As we've said every single year so far ::g::, if you want to use italics, bold tags or similar in your story, please make sure that you code them up in a format suitable for livejournal. That means using html or LJ specific tags such as:

- <b>bold</b> or <strong>bold</strong>

- <i>italics</i> or <em>emphasise</em>

- <u>underline</u>

- including an image is <img src="http://www.urlofpic.com/picname"> - if you want to include an image, please either upload to somewhere anonymous like imageshack or tinypic or send us the pic, let us upload it to one of our LJ scrapbooks and we'll send you the address of the link back so you can include it where you want it

- LJ names are formatted <lj user="alyse"> or, for community names, <lj comm="sga_santa">

- lj-cuts are formatted <lj-cut text="This is the cut tag text">

So what we mean by 'formatted for LJ' is 'send us a plain text document, with any fancy schmancy formatting you want already coded up in html'. If you send us a document with the formatting just in the document, with no html coding, it gets posted as plain text and you will, unfortunately, lose any formatting you want.

Please do not use < or > to indicate telepathy or asides or thoughts or anything else unless you know how to use the html character codes for those symbols (which can be found here). That's because that's the symbol that browsers use to let them know that an instruction is coming on how to present the information, and you will lose anything between those two symbols as browsers will interpret it as a note, not something to show.

Please also be aware of the smart quotes issue in Word, which doesn't render well in html. If you're having any problems, we advise saving your file in plain text, without line breaks and allowing character substitution if necessary, or using [livejournal.com profile] astolat's word macros here (thanks to [livejournal.com profile] lunasky for that link previously) to convert your word document to an LJ suitable format. If all of that sounds like goobledegook to you, then just send us the Word document, coded up with those markers (this is the important bit!), and we'll save as plain text before we post anyway :)

Story Length

As you all know, for this exchange your story should be at least 1,000 words long but there is no upper limit. Not even the sky ::g::

However, LJ disagrees - it has a maximum post length of a certain number of characters, which translates into around about 11,500 words, depending on how many big words you like to use.

So in terms of posting, if stories are >10,000 words we post to LJ in parts and then edit all of those posts put in all of the hyperlinks. However, once you get longer than 2 parts it gets to be a huge pain, especially if there are a lot of long stories and we have to post loads of stories a day and Alyse's brain slowly dies with the linking and the editing and the editing and the linking. (Claire's brain, however, stays young and spritely, but that's because she's on the good drugs...) So, if it's been longer than that, we've whacked it up on Alyse's webspace and linked to it from the community.

We're doing the same this year, so if you would like to make our lives tremendously easier, please check the length of your story by posting it with all of the header information to a private post in your LJ (as private posts are only seen by you) to make sure it fits into one or two parts, and then send it to us in an appropriate form.

- < 10,000 words - one file, labelled yourname - storyname - part 1 of 1

- > 10,000 words, < 20,000 words - split into two files, labelled yourname - storyname - part 1 of 2 and part 2 of 2. Each part should fit into one LJ post (and check this, please!)

- > 20,000 words - send us one file and we'll host it on Alyse's site as a webpage. [livejournal.com profile] aithine is working on an html template for us that will hopefully reduce the amount of C&P and fixing we need to do, and if she manages to get it done on time, we'll post this so that people can do this coding if they want. It won't be obligatory, though :)

File Types

Which brings us to the last point - what file types can we accept.

Between the two of us, we can handle the following formats:

- plain text (*.txt) - this is by far and away our preferred option as long as it is without line breaks
- Word docs (*.doc)
- open office format (*.odt)
- by giving us access to your file on googledocs

Please do not send us *.docx files. That's a Word 2007 and above proprietary format.



Don't:

- use Word's save as a webpage option. It's bad, wrong and while it doesn't fund terrorism, it does lurk in dark alleyways preparing to leap out and mug innocent browsers

- code your submission for use with LJ's rich text posting interface rather than the normal html one - this is Word's slightly less evil but still creepy younger brother

- use < or > to code anything but html

- use Word's fancy formatting for paragraphs rather than leaving a blank line between paragraphs - this formatting is lost when posted to LJ, and all of your text ends up squished close together
like this
in a way that makes it very difficult
to read large blocks of text
on a computer screen.
Even when it's a completely new paragraph.
"For example," said Teyla, "when someone new speaks."
"That right?" asked Ronon, although his tone was disinterested.
Rodney just rolled his eyes and stole John's donut.
Also this is an example
of what saving as a text file
with line breaks looks like.
Evil, no?

Those of you that have already sent stories in, you're fine and don't worry about it. You're already on the mod LJ and good to go when posting starts.

Any questions?

* Please note, you can also do this by sending us chocolate (Claire), alcohol (Alyse), Jared Padalecki trussed up and tied with a bow (Claire), Andrew Lee Potts - again, trussed up and tied with a bow (Alyse) or porn (both of us)...

Date: 2010-12-03 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taste-is-sweet.livejournal.com
Thank you very much for the info! I didn't remember about the .docx problem so it's much appreciated.

I have a question, if you please: if you take out the code that turns the picture into a URL link for the hosting site, can you still use photobucket? I've tried this and as far as I can tell, all that happens is that you get a picture that doesn't show any information, but I'm assuming you'd know better than I would. I'm just trying to save you guys a bit of work by hosting the pic myself. :)

Date: 2010-12-03 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taste-is-sweet.livejournal.com
Ah. I didn't know about the view image thing. Thank you for that.

I certainly don't mind having you host the image--I'm just sorry to give you the extra work. :)

Date: 2010-12-03 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squeakyoflight.livejournal.com
Um. I think I screwed up when I sent my story to you. I think it may have been an evil .docx, and I know I didn't code the story info stuff properly. I just bolded it without the html code markers...

Sorry. So, so sorry.

And I didn't check the word count. Damn I suck.

Would you like me to correct, re-save and re-send?

Squeaky

Date: 2010-12-03 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taste-is-sweet.livejournal.com
I can do it if you want, Squeaks. Just send me your final doc. :)

Date: 2010-12-03 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squeakyoflight.livejournal.com
Thanks for the offer, Tasty!

And your icon totally cracks me up. TOTALLY!!! (and you know why)

Squeaky

Date: 2010-12-03 06:46 am (UTC)
alyse: terminator genisys -full body shot of Sarah and Kyle walking away from the camera (Default)
From: [personal profile] alyse
It's coded and posted to the admin account already, so you don't need to do anything more,

Date: 2010-12-03 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squeakyoflight.livejournal.com
Thanks Alyse! I really appreciate all your work.

Yeah Secret Santa!

Squeaky

Date: 2010-12-03 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaworu-renritsu.livejournal.com
As for formatting fics for Alyse's site, maybe this 'template' would be useful?

Edited Date: 2010-12-03 08:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-12-03 09:31 am (UTC)
alyse: terminator genisys -full body shot of Sarah and Kyle walking away from the camera (Default)
From: [personal profile] alyse
That's pretty much what we've got at the moment, only with title, author and pretty picture at the top and links back to the comm and story post at the bottom, but Aithine is going to do something clever with php or server side includes or something.

Date: 2010-12-03 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaworu-renritsu.livejournal.com
Oops, just realized my previous comment must've sounded sarcastic ^^;

Date: 2010-12-03 12:10 pm (UTC)
alyse: terminator genisys -full body shot of Sarah and Kyle walking away from the camera (Default)
From: [personal profile] alyse
No, helpful :)

If mine was brief it's omg!pain

Date: 2010-12-03 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaworu-renritsu.livejournal.com
Oh, okay then ) I was actually thinking it would be nice to have something to automatically code plain text into html. I'm sure it's not hard to do, probably a simple plugin, if only I knew a little more programming...

Date: 2010-12-03 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaworu-renritsu.livejournal.com
Oh, by the way. This one (http://www.dimonius.ru/soft/TigerPad_3.6.zip) (English interface plugin (http://www.dimonius.ru/soft/TigerPad_english.zip)) has made my life a lot easier. It can add HTML header to a document, has shortcuts for some HTML tags, can add symbols to beginnings or ends of lines and so on.

I need an beta.

Date: 2010-12-04 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flubber2kool.livejournal.com
I am still writing mine and I havnet heard from my beta. Can somebody help me? It's an NC-17 Carson/Rodney story.

I will have it done by the 10th but not sure about getting it beta'd. Does everything go out on the 10th or can I get an extenstion?

Sorry about this.

Re: I need an beta.

Date: 2010-12-04 09:08 pm (UTC)
alyse: terminator genisys -full body shot of Sarah and Kyle walking away from the camera (Default)
From: [personal profile] alyse
if you just need a beta, try the beta post (it should be tagged under 'admin'.

If you need an extension after that, please contact Claire and I via e-mail - our addresses are both on the mail you were sent, or it's alyse at livejournal.com and claire at livejournal.com

Date: 2010-12-06 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-varda-x.livejournal.com
What about the word count? Where do we put dat?

Date: 2010-12-07 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabidfan.livejournal.com
I'm sending my story off now. Hopefully I haven't gaffed...

Date: 2011-11-25 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camshaft22.livejournal.com
As soon as I get home, I'll email it.

Date: 2011-12-05 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linziday.livejournal.com
This is probably a stupid question, but who do we send the document to? Do we just reply to the email we got with the prompt?

Thank you for modding this!!!!! I can't even imagine the work. Actually, I can. It gives me nightmares.

Date: 2011-12-05 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linziday.livejournal.com
Thank you!

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